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And the next thing we knew suddenly the President told Colonel Goodpastor to say that this was descended from the State Department.

And the next thing we knew the statement came out from the US from NASA which made no sense at all.

And of course what had happened was that Hagerty -- that had been the routine thing, and when it came up Hagerty was to refer the press to NASA, and NASA, if they were referred, had the cover story.

And Goodpastor -- I never quite found out what happened in the White House, whether Goodpastor didn't get to Hagerty or Hagerty didn't pay any attention to them, either way was more likely, because Hagerty was way senior to Goodpastor at that time, and they had done this, and he didn't know, he had been at that little meeting with the President, he didn't know that it was supposed to be in the State Department. And that got everything off upside down. So we were trying to explain how the US Government had put out this silly statement which bore no relation to the facts, when we knew the facts.

And of course at that time the Russians hadn't yet announced that they had the pilot or anything. But we knew that was likely, too. We knew that would happen. I think it followed electronically. And but it was because of this White House bolix that this had happened.

Mr. Dawson. The basis for Dulles' willingness throughout

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