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don't recall. But there were those problems down around the
copper mines, and Katanga, there was a revolution down there
of sorts, And there were many difficulties in the Congo at
that time.

Mr. Baron. Do you recall anything else about the language
that was used in raising the question of assassination at the
meeting?

Mr. Dillon. No, I am sorry, I don't recall really anything
but what is in the affidavit, but just the subject came up
generally as a question, and it was turned off by the CIA.

Mr. Baron. Would the manner in which the question of
assassinating Lumumba was raised at that meeting have served
as sufficient authorization for the CIA to proceed to develop
the capability to assassinate Lumumba after that meeting?

Mr. Dillon. Well, I don't think they really needed any
authorization to develop the capabilities if they didn't use
them. And certainly it would not have been enough authoriza-
tion by a long shot for them to start doing that. But I think
they could have decided they wanted to develop the capability
in this area irrespective of this, just by knowing the concern
that everyone had about Lumumba in the area. That they could
have done. They wouldn't have to tell anyone about that.
That is just developing their own internal capability, and
then they would have to come and get permission.

Mr. Baron. Would the same thing hold true for the

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