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2 June 1964

MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD

SUBJECT: Telephone Conversation between AMBIDDY-1 and Martin Ferrer

DATE: 30 May 1964 at 1230

1. AMBIDDY-1 stated that AMJAVA-4 will be meeting with Carl in Houston this afternoon.

2. A-1 wants to meet with the Consejo on 7 June at 0830 in Panama City.

3. A-1 again reminded we would like to have the tapes on what transpired in Venezuela. Martin reiterated that in order to protect his interest we must have current intelligence concerning his organization.

4. It is the opinion of the Consejo that a frank, off-the-record talk with Al Burt of the Miami press would do no harm. We consider Burt to be a responsible newspaperman and he may be in a position to help A-1 put the Pilon raid in its proper perspective. If A-1 thinks this is a good idea he should speak openly to Burt about the Pilon raid admitting the embroidery that has accompanied his recent press statements. A-1 was reminded this interview, if given, should not mention or allude to KUBARK support. Since Burt is an ambitious journalist he may probably ask A-1 to scoop on his next raid; we see no harm in this. A-1 said he would ask Burt if he wanted to go on a future raid. We mentioned that we doubted he would accept the offer.

5. According to A-1, AMTYU-19 is still in New York and is expected in Miami shortly.

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